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Propellers

PROPELLERS

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RC Model Boat Propellers    Carlos Andrade

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This page is an attempt to stress the importance of the propeller in R/C boat propulsion. It results from my lectures on the Web and information from by Jim Nissen, Paul Govostes and Mike T. When you finish reading this, hopefully you will be interested in learning more.

When I started thinking on a page like that I posted some question at Jim’s Board; the answers just made me sure that I had a lot to learn. So, when I finished the page I asked Paul if he could look at it and correct my mistakes. Well, he not only corrected the mistakes but ad some good information. It’s just a matter of justice register that this is a Carlos/Paul page and I am most honored with such company. Paul, thank your very much for your kindness and for sharing your knowledge with us.

Introduction

The prop is responsible for transforming the movement of the motor’s power. It accomplishes this task by displacing a mass of water when turning. One of the first laws of physic states that with each action there is an opposite and equal reaction of the same intensity, and of contrary direction. As a result, the water movement is displaced backwards, and the prop is pushed forward. There is a rigid link to the hull, that results in the boat moving forward in a speed proportional to the volume of water being displaced. The prop rests in the water and moves forward, by the amount of it’s pitch in theory. As water is not a solid mass, the prop slips and the forward movement is less then the theoretical forward motion.

So, the larger the pitch, the higher the speed, as a result of increased forward movement at the same time unit. This is true to a certain point. Sometimes, the pitch is so great, the engine can’t reach it’s maximum RPM. And less RPM, means less forward movement within the same time unit, = less speed. Compared to your car, a higher gear reaches higher speed in normal circumstances. On a stepped hill for instance, the load on the engine causes a reduction in RPM and a decrease in speed. Under these conditions, the 3rd gear may be faster. Like the car gear box, smaller pitch has more acceleration and less top speed, while greater pitch has more top speed with less acceleration.

Conversely, too little pitch makes the engine over-rev, with possible costly engine damage.

As your boat’s engine doesn’t have a gear box, the prop has to be carefully chosen to overcome these restrictions.

Diameter is also of prime importance when choosing the right prop: larger diameter = more thrust, and greater capacity for moving a heavy hull. Increasing the pitch generally demands a reduction in diameter, lessening the drag and increasing speed. Again, this has a limitation: a minimal diameter is required to guarantee the necessary thrust.

Moreover, the diameter helps control slippage, larger diameter is less prone to prop slippage, until the larger diameter causes too much drag and reduces engine speed. In a way, diameter directly effects speed, but it’s major influence is on acceleration.

The number of blades is also important. The ideal prop should only have one blade, eliminating drag of the other blades that are not producing useful work. As this kind of prop would be impossible to balance, 2 bladed props are standard. On some type hulls, 3 or even 4 blades may be used. Mainly on boats that demand lift at the transom, because they run too louse. Outriggers are the best example of this kind of hull. It is also commonly accepted that a 3 blades prop has a smooth acceleration, because 1 blade is always into water. And more: considering the same pitch, a 2 blades prop may have 1 mm more in diameter and will load the engine the same as a smaller 3 blades prop., But a 3 blades prop has more prop walk and torque roll.

Blade Thickness (the thinner the best). A thin and sharp blade cuts the water and reduces prop-walk tendency (walking to the right as the transom goes to the left, because of the props turning effect).

Preliminary Definitions

  • Blade: is the prop part that cuts the water and thrusts it back. In R/C speed boats we use 2 or 3 bladed props, with very few 4 blade props.
  • Hub: central portion of the prop, where the blades and prop shaft are attached, The Hub provides most of the strength of the propeller.
  • Diameter: prop size, measured between the tips of the blades. Or 2 times the measurement between the tip of the blade and the center of the hub. Larger diameter props are normally used on large and heavy hulls. With R/C gas boats, 65 to 80 mm is the standard. Like pitch, a larger diameter means more water is moved per each revolution.
  • Pitch: theoretical distance the prop travels on each rotation. This is theoretical because water is not a solid medium and the prop slips. 10 to 30% is normal, the lower numbers are found only on hi-performance props, specially prepared.
  • Constant Pitch: the pitch is the same across the entire propeller’s working surface, or blade face.
  • Progressive Pitch: the pitch is lower at the leading edge and increases progressively along the trailing edge.Consider a prop that runs in a liquid media with a constant pitch, the tip of the prop rotates faster than the hub. Conversely, if the angle at the tip is lower, the water speed on all prop surfaces will be the same. In this case, the performance is far better. Progressive pitch props offer better planning performance.NOTE: The ability to turn a large diameter or high pitch prop at a desired RPM is determined by the amount of torque provided by the engine. Bigger is not necessarily better.
  • Aspect ratio: (a definition by Paul Govostes): The relationship between pitch and diameter, is measured as the “Aspect Ratio”. (Pitch divided by Diameter). (eg) The Octura 1475 has 4.13″Pitch/ 2.95″Dia. The relationship between Pitch4.13″ divided by Diameter 2.95″ = (1.4 Aspect Ratio). Higher Aspect Ratio = More Pitch/ Less Diameter. And lower (AR) = Less Pitch/ More Diameter.Generally, a faster prop has a higher (AR), more Pitch, with less Diameter. However this holds true to a certain extent, as adequate Diameter is necessary to sustained push!
  • Leading edge: the side closest to the transom.
  • Trailing edge: the side furthest from the transom.The bellow drawing (adapted from an original posted by Wayne Rathbun) shows a propeller parts:Same parts, on pics this time:
  • High lift: a prop which tends to lift the transom when the boat is running.
  • Low lift: a prop which does not have this tendency.With Octura props, the X series (an X before the number) indicates a low lift prop. Props without the X are high lift props.Ex.:X470 Octura prop
    X= low lift prop.
    4= pitch ratio
    70= 70 mm diameter1667 Octura prop
    lift prop
    1.6 AR
    67mm diameter
    So: pitch divided by diameter= (AR) or pitch/67=1.6 or pitch=1.6 x 67= 107.2 mm diameter or 4,2″
  • Cavitation: is water vaporizing due to the extreme reduction of pressure on the back of the propeller blade. Many props partially cavitate during normal operation, but excessive cavitation can result in damage to the prop’s blade surface. Note: Cavitation is often confused with Ventilation.
  • Ventilation: often confused with cavitation, it’s normally induced by an external source, not by the prop itself. It occurs when air is directed on the prop surface. Eventually, it may help by reducing cavitation. On real boats, this is sometimes accomplished by directing the exhaust over the prop. On R/C boats this is not a common practice; nevertheless, it looks like some guys in Swiss are trying this. Look at the pic bellow:
  • Cupping: Is a curvature added at the props trailing edge, normally very slight, towards the blade center, shaped like a spoon. It reduces cavitation and maximize thrust, increasing the effective prop pitch. Additionally, it lifts the bow and narrows the thrust cone. It looks like a magic medicine, the solution for all our problems but, like any medicine, it has to be taken carefully. Besides, cupping has to be equal in all blades, or you will have an imbalanced prop, that may damage your engine.
  • Camber: Arching curve from leading edge to trailing edge, like a spread out cup. It makes a progressive pitch at the prop.
  • Rake: Is the angle of the blade attachment to the hub, and the degree that the blades slant forward or backwards. It’s normally use to correct ventilation or cavitation situations. Furthermore, rake lifts the bow and so the speed. Typically, low rake props are used on sub-surface drives with heavy hulls. Higher Rake blades with surface drive application, tend to re-direct and condense the thrust cone further aft.

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How to Select the Correct Prop for Your Boat


Maybe the biggest improvement that can be gained in performance with your RC Boat is the selection of the correct prop!

First Step:

Ask questions of persons who are running the same class and boat you need to prop(and running well). Find out the pipe length and pipe that they are using. Ask if they are using stock or raised timing in their engine. If they use raised timing, you will need to lengthen the pipe a little. Set your boat with the same pipe and length that they are using. This will be a documented starting point that you know will work well. ALL of these questions also can be asked of the participants on the Listbot (you may have to do some sorting). Visual selection and comparison is by far the best. Choose your model carefully.


Second Step:

Find out which prop(s) the people running well are using on their boat. Ask the weight of the boat you are comparing against. If your boat is of a similar weight, their prop will be a good starting point.

OK lets define RUNNING WELL:

Does that person have a boat that is fast and will slow down and mill well before the start of the race. Does the boat ALWAYS come on and off the pipe easilly during racing? Are they winning races or finishing close to the front of the pack? This is RUNNING WELL.

 

Third Step:

Apply the steps #1 and #2 above and run your boat in several races to find out what is the “weak link” of your boat. I use the testing pond to do this, and if you have the time, the application of testing AND a few races is the best way to place yourself in a position to improve the performance from your “base point”.


Fourth Step:

NOW you are ready to make your boat perform BETTER than the boats that you observed and used as your “baseline setup”! Look at the specifications on the baseline prop you are running (pitch diameter, lift characteristics, etc). Document these specs. You now should categorize the prop, as fitting into one of three classifications. (Non lifting – high efficiency prop, medium lifting – medium efficiency prop, straightaway prop.

The X series Octura props fit in the first category, the 1400 and 1600 series Octura props fit in the second category, and many straightaway props fit the third category. ABC props numbering system won’t tell you the application or category. They do have a cross-reference chart that will show the equivalent prop with the Octura Series (also the pitch and diameter specifications). They also have the H series props and the S series props. These are primarily props that Andy Brown optimized from the standard ABC line of props. Many of the H Series props are excellent for the hydro classes.

Study – study – study, the props that Octura and ABC offer in terms of classification, pitch and diameter. Buy several props that seem to fit closely with the prop you have been running. NOTE: Over the years you will buy MANY props that won’t work well, keep them and you will find a use for them sometime in the future! If you are running X Series props, you may be able to change to 1400 or 1600 series Octura Props or H series ABC Props. The deciding point will be how much weight you have on the strut. If there is very little weight, you probably will have to stay with the X Series Props. Outboards run VERY well with 1400 series props! (Takes a little setup change)


Fifth Step:

The quickest method to enhance your performance is to buy a Prop Duplicator, which will allow you to bend a prop, which is as good as many of the front runners, use. The Duplicator is made off of the best props that the front runners use! This device will allow you to duplicate as many props as you want. Another way is to purchase a prop fromCompetition Marine Designs (Andy Brown). Andy is as accomplished at modifying props as anyone in the hobby. He can provide a prop that will be much better than a stock prop.


Sixth Step:

Now that you are moving into an area, very few people explore, you need to document your findings. When you test, have several props selected to try. Use a radar gun and a stopwatch to time your turns and document each of the props. DON’T forget to make your selection one that will race well. If you have a prop duplicator as your base point, you can pound several shapes and even different props on the same Duplicator. I have found MANY times, that several props of different shape and blade area pounded (bent) on the Duplicator produce vastly different props. Here is an address for a little spread sheet application that I developed to keep track of my props. I have included the current listing of ALL my props for your information.(a zipped file for Microsoft Excel) http://1nitrorc.com/propdoc2.zip

 

Until next time……. (Tech Notes Guest : Andy Brown on Straightaway Setup and Running)

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